Your dad’s third favorite band is in trouble!

Jane’s Addiction were performing a show recently when two of the band members, Dave Navarro and Perry Farrell (two men who are way too old to still be dressing the way they do), got into a scuffle over some nonsense.

Seriously, no one knows why it happened — the chiefly cited reason appears to be “mounting frustration” and technical issues, but that still doesn’t explain why two men over the age of 50 decided that the best course of action would be trying to get into a fistfight onstage. Here’s what the whole thing looked like as it went down, and fair warning, it’s pitiful: